1. Notes: 71 / 3 months ago  from pagannews (originally from paganthings)

    Do you think all Wiccans should be vegetarian/vegan to abide by “harm none” or is that not necessary?

    gods-save-anonymous:

    crowdog66:

    No.

    The Wiccan Rede does NOT say “Harm none”, which is an impossible expectation. What it says is: “If it causes no harm, do what you will”, which rather suggests (since a rede is advice, not a commandment) that all actions leading to no harm or to minimal harm are morally acceptable actions. It makes no statement concerning necessary acts of positive harm, such as eating to survive.

    I’ll also point out that you don’t see most Wiccans whining about other animals eating meat. Humans, like some of our primate relatives (including chimpanzees), are omnivorous: eating meat when we can get it is natural for us. So while one could argue for hours about the relative morality of factory meat versus free-range meat, for example, I think that insisting that “you shouldn’t have a steak because THE GODS WILL HATE U AND U’RE A BAD WIKKAN” is rather silly.

    I feel like we’re going to have to explain this to people over and over again forever because certain Pagan authors have fucked it up for us.

    (Source: paganthings)

  2. Notes

    1. loveoflopt reblogged this from teastainedcpt and added:
      I think it’s because it doesn’t explicitly say what to do if it DOES cause harm. Which is kind of sad, if you think...
    2. teastainedcpt reblogged this from loveoflopt and added:
      How do people even get ‘harm none’ from ‘an if it harm none, do what ye will’ or whatever form you use? Is it only us...
    3. stokedapples answered: I dont feel that way, as it is part of “the cycle of life” plants have energy and a type of “soul” also, I believe, and they are eaten.
    4. realforus answered: I’ve been a vegetarian since I was 2, and I still believe that it isn’t necessary to cut out meat, as a pagan.
    5. starrcraven answered: no in my view, as long as you are thankful for what you are receving, being any type of meat, you are fine I do a daily chant each time i eat
    6. darklords8n answered: This is a delicate issue, especially for the adamant vegetarian/vegan. But I believe, because we are omnivorous by nature, we have a choice.
    7. mariadkins reblogged this from ashareem
    8. madplaidrabbits answered: i don’t think it’s necessary. i think though, that if you take from nature, you should give back in someway. volunteering, gardening, etc
    9. sooticasdreams answered: As long as the animal is culled humanely & eggs are not from caged birds etc you’d still be following the rede
    10. differentleeeee answered: not necessary m’dear. in my opinion anyway :) Blessed be. )O(
    11. ashareem reblogged this from lollygaggingandlassitude and added:
      I’ll add that Vegans/Vegetarians are harming plants by killing them to survive as well. Frankly, Pagans, in general,...
    12. tabbycat3t answered: Not necessary…one must kill a plant, veg or fruit in order to consume it. Thank the spirit of the animal for giving it’s life to nourish.
    13. dracosplayground answered: I absolutely LOVE meat. A lot of nature is predator-prey, and our nature is predator. Indulge in it every once in a while.
    14. kdevine708 answered: I have been Wiccan for 16 years and I am neither. But I would like to try vegetarianism.
    15. worldofawiccan answered: no
    16. thelemicwaves answered: I love Wiccans. They are crunchy and go well with ketchup.
    17. witchcuntt reblogged this from thiscrookedcrown
    18. thiscrookedcrown reblogged this from mythotica
    19. notophelia reblogged this from zoedangerawesome and added:
      One of these days I’m...actually make words out of my thoughts about the Rede,
    20. sarahmikna answered: You dont have to be, I used to but I am a polish girl lol, If you are I would say just say thanks to the cow whom died for you to eat.
    21. sledgehammertoe answered: To take it to the extreme, there was this line in Bloom County: “Stop! We’re breathing and massacring millions of germs!”
    22. lollygaggingandlassitude reblogged this from widdershinsgirl and added:
      I’d add that people who think vegetarians and vegans survive without their food being dependent on the death of animals...
    23. weyandawikamouri answered: Not necessary. Its ridiculous. We are omnivores, its how we’re made. Why go against how you’re made?
    24. xkristinxgoesxrawrx answered: I think it depends on how literally you take it. I don’t personally think so.
    25. mythotica reblogged this from widdershinsgirl
    26. zoedangerawesome reblogged this from pagannews
    27. what-not answered: No. Plants are killed for vegetarian consumption, aren’t they? Animals should be humanely slaughtered for food.
    28. skycladatmidnight answered: That’s a good question but I do think that “harm none” comprehends so many things that range from spells to food.
    29. hippie-pagan answered: I don’t find that necessary just in my opinion olden days they hunted and lived off the land for their food
    30. madjimbeau answered: Life eats itself. Since all life can be traced back to a unified origin, all species, plant or animal, are part of a whole, that eats itself.
    31. justcallmezed reblogged this from pagannews
    32. cousinnick reblogged this from pagannews
    33. toyourgalaxies answered: Nah, because then you’d still be harming the plants. xD Besides, the rede is more of a guideline; it’s impossible to take 100% literally.
    34. nightkind answered: Not necessary, I think choosing free run eggs and stuff is efficient but also not necessary even though I am veggie myself.
    35. parkyrspective answered: Absolutely not, but then I follow a very Native American-ized view of eating meat/products from animals.
    36. goddess29 answered: People even now honor animals they hunt and historically animals have been sacrificed, so I think eating meat is not so bad. It is a choice.
    37. widdershinsgirl answered: Most “grass-fed” beef is actually grass-finished, meaning that it’s raised under typical conditions and only fed grass for a few weeks.
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